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Clutch springs how to

Postby itln650r » Fri May 08, 2009 11:34 pm

**recomend oil change at the same time**

1) drain oil
2) remove clutch cable from clutch cover (hardest part)
3) take out all bolts on clutch cover
4) turn lever on clutch cover about 90° counter clockwise to release the shaft inside the clutch.
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5) take clutch cover off
6) theres 5 bolts as shown in the picture, remove them and the springs are behind them as also shown
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7) install new springs, and torque bolts to 87inch pounds
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8) clean mating surface and put a new gasket on, put the clutch cover on (make sure the lever is still 90° to the left)
9) put all bolts back in and torque to 87 inch pounds also.
10) put clutch cable back on and adjust as needed
11) put new oil in and ride like the wind
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby coop » Sat May 09, 2009 12:02 am

i will be doing this next oil change
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby itln650r » Sat May 09, 2009 12:06 am

its an amazing change, sucks in traffic unless your hands are extremely strong, but its the best money ive ever spent on the bike. it was such a big change i stalled it a few times the first ride with them in.
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby tribulation138 » Sat May 09, 2009 7:15 am

Wow! that looks easy.. I might do this.. I thought we had to take the actually clutch plates out.. Now I might do this... I just have to buy a torque wrench.. So whats the new springs feels like? Is more smoother or something??
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Postby itln650r » Sat May 09, 2009 9:04 am

not smoother just more pressure to improve throttle response and reduce slipping. i would recommend anybody riding a 650 to get these.....from BRP ovcourse :cool
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby electjohn » Sat May 09, 2009 9:50 am

I put mine in this spring,thought I was going to have to replace clutch, tried it with new springs and boy what a difference. Don't have to replace clutch, got them from BRP last fall and thought they would be hard to install, looked at the manual, when I had to change oil i changed them. Took longer to clean old gasket off than anything else. Take the clutch cable out of the handel and the bottom removal is simpler. :cool
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Postby tribulation138 » Sat May 09, 2009 12:35 pm

...and for 30.00 bucks you can't go wrong.
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby Varment » Sat May 09, 2009 2:05 pm

Do you have to torque the bolts that go through the springs or just make em tight?
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby tribulation138 » Sat May 09, 2009 2:13 pm

Varment wrote:Do you have to torque the bolts that go through the springs or just make em tight?


i think he said 87 inch lbs
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Postby Varment » Sat May 09, 2009 2:14 pm

I think that was just for the cover....
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Postby itln650r » Sat May 09, 2009 2:16 pm

both case bolts and spring bolts ar 87 inch pounds. straight from the repair manual :)
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Postby Varment » Sat May 09, 2009 2:20 pm

:cool
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby Tom » Sun May 10, 2009 11:07 pm

Great pictures - Thanks. Gives me more confidence to do this myself when the time comes.
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby hickman71 » Tue May 12, 2009 12:33 pm

I changed mine out with Barnett MT-55-5 clutch springs about two years ago. Well worth the $15! :thumbup:
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby paris400 » Tue May 12, 2009 1:36 pm

itln650r wrote:not smoother just more pressure to improve throttle response and reduce slipping. i would recommend anybody riding a 650 to get these.....from BRP ovcourse :cool


Thanks for the heads up on this product. This sounds better than trying to install a new exhaust for more HP. So how would you get the cable off (you said it was the hardest part). Secondly, can you describe how much better your throttle response is compared to stock? When I'm in slow moving traffic I'm grateful that I have the 650, and that when I let out the clutch slowly I get moving quickly and smoothly at a decent pace, and then when I give it a little throttle it feels like a rocket ready to take off. With these new clutch springs will the response out of first be even more relentless?
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby itln650r » Tue May 12, 2009 7:03 pm

i cant tell you how to take the cable off cuz i man handled mine and now the adjuster looks like shit, maybe someone else has insight on that, but ill tell you the throttle response in first, well if i sit up and go full throttle, the front tire is coming up
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby Bkizz » Tue May 12, 2009 7:41 pm

Do these make the clutch engage point more predictable since you have a stiffer clutch? I am thinking of picking these up...I have noticed a decent amount of slippage and thought I had the lever adjusted too tightly. Nope...must just be the weak springs.
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Postby Varment » Wed May 13, 2009 7:56 am

disconnect the clutch cable at the lever first, then disconnecting the other end should be a breeze...
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby coop » Thu May 28, 2009 2:50 am

just ordered this from brp. do i need gasket lube or something for when i do it?
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby 650R_Rider » Thu May 28, 2009 7:52 pm

Yes, you will want a new gasket and your gasket resin.

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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby coop » Thu May 28, 2009 8:57 pm

ty :sm
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Postby 650R_Rider » Thu May 28, 2009 10:47 pm

welcome :smile:

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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby cknauf » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:10 pm

If you start producing significantly more power than stock, you WILL need these. After the ARATA full system my standard clutch springs couldn't hold the extra power. Be sure you get Gary's special ones. Yes, they are from Barnett but they are custom made for BRP and are stiffer than the ones you can buy straight from Barnett.
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby lamy_chop » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:52 pm

hell, i got these when my clutch started slipping a few months back and it gave me about 1500-2000 more miles before i needed to rebuild the clutch altogether. the shitty part was, when i rebuilt the clutch, the original friction plates weren't, or didn't seem to be, worn or show signs of wear. idk
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby cknauf » Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:22 pm

lamy_chop wrote:hell, i got these when my clutch started slipping a few months back and it gave me about 1500-2000 more miles before i needed to rebuild the clutch altogether. the shitty part was, when i rebuilt the clutch, the original friction plates weren't, or didn't seem to be, worn or show signs of wear. idk

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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby BRP » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:42 pm

Just by looking at the clutch plates, you can not tell if they are worn.
If the steel plates are discolored{blue}, they are junk, or close to it.
The fibers are most deceiving.But in reality, you need to check the thickness,
and if they are warped on both.
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby lamy_chop » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:48 pm

the steel plates looked new, no discoloration or warpage. same with the fibers, they looked good no warpage and the same thickness as new plate. no matter though, the bike runs great right now and i'm not gonna complain that i may have rebuilt the clutch earlier than needed. "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby shadows » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:42 pm

Just out of curiosity which size torque wrench or combo of wrenches would be best for both our bikes and say a car.
Ill probably buy from this site after i get the springs and other stuff i need from brp :)

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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby HipGnosis » Mon May 17, 2010 10:41 am

hickman71 wrote:I changed mine out with Barnett MT-55-5 clutch springs about two years ago. Well worth the $15! :thumbup:

FYI: Their part # has changed to: 501-50-05055
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Re: Clutch springs how to

Postby HipGnosis » Mon May 17, 2010 10:54 am

HipGnosis wrote:
hickman71 wrote:I changed mine out with Barnett MT-55-5 clutch springs about two years ago. Well worth the $15! :thumbup:

FYI: Their part # has changed to: 501-50-05055


Just did some googling and found;

EBC CSK10 springs
$7.40 @ http://www.ronayers.com/ProductDetails/ ... KU/1409399

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